Master These 5 Pillars or Stay Stuck for Another Decade + Where do most founders get AI wrong

OPENING - EPISODE 33 PAUL WRIGHT Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of the Link Thru Social Podcast. My name is Paul Wright, and we're on episode number 33. I can't thank everyone enough who has been sharing our podcast, liking it on the different social media platforms, viewing it, of course, on our YouTube channel, and just really building this community stronger. The Link Thru Social Podcast is here for you to keep you informed of all the latest on digital media, AI, social media management, and so much more. We're in really special times now, and it's it's very important to get the information out to people and educate them so they know what's going on. And that's what the Link Thru Social Podcast is all about, and we really appreciate all your support. Today we have a wonderful show. We have two guests. first will be Chris Anderson, and he's the host of his own podcast, The Upgraded Man, and also the founder of Elevate Media Group. And then we have Olga Popova, and she's the founder of SpaceAd and author of 27 Minutes to the Future, published in four different languages. Really good guests today, and we'll get to those right after this short break. SPONSOR MESSAGE - TICKETPORTX SPONSOR MESSAGE You've worked hard to build your audience, so why send your customers somewhere else? Introducing white-label digital storefronts from TicketportX. Now you can process tickets, registrations, donations, merchandise sales, and collect valuable customer data directly on your website or custom landing page. Increase brand visibility, create a stronger connection with your customers, deliver a seamless user experience, and monetize your brand with high-converting pages powered by TicketportX's secure hosting, payment processing, and event technology. Perfect for festivals, conventions, classes, retail storefronts, charity events, boarding events, and even free events. But that's not all. 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Husband, father, and founder of this has spent years helping men and entrepreneurs tell their stories and sharpen their messages. On the show, he brings honest, specific conversations with men who've done the work so listeners walk away with something they can actually use to upgrade their own lives. Very inspiring. Chris, welcome to the show. Hey, thanks so much for having me. Appreciate it. My pleasure. before we get into things, Chris, maybe you can just share with our audience a little bit about your background. Yeah, I guess where's where do you want me to start? I, you know, I went to school for athletic training. So was big into health and wellness, helping athletes, things like that. Looked, you know, at athletic trainers 40, 50 years old, and I was like, they got a life that I don't really want. And so that's kind of what stemmed everything. I was getting big into personal development, learning about entrepreneurship, and you know, eventually just decided to take a chance on me and what I could do, and felt the call from you know God to to take that leap, quit my job and and start a business, and that's what I did. And you know, so the podcast has grown a lot, which has been surprising because it wasn't originally my main focus, it was just a way for me to learn. and yeah, and and business has grown, and it's allowed me to do a lot of cool things, meet a lot of cool people, and yeah, the rest of kind of history, you know, it's just continue to grow and and try to serve others the best I can. That's that's absolutely amazing. So the your website is uprising.simplecast.com your podcast. Now I mentioned off the top talk about the five pillars relationships, finance, fitness, mindset, living fully. Which pillar do you see men fail at most often? And and why do you think that that's the one? Yeah, you know, and that's a that's a good question. And I think it depends on the person, because we give energy to what we find most important in our mind. No, all those are important, but I think it depends on the person. So are they gonna be more fitness focused where maybe the relationships struggle or their finances struggle, or you know, maybe they focus super, super hard on their finance and relationships and then their fitness and living fully struggle. So I think it's depends on the person, but you know, a lot of times I think we see living fully be one that a lot of people and fitness that a lot of men kind of put off to the back burner because it's more about them and not someone else. And so I would say those two, because a lot of men are just focused on you know working to prov provide you know, most of the listeners you know, want to have a family, have a family, so they're focused on building that and and leaning into that aspect and then mindset, I think is kind of like the middle ground with it. Sure. And then of course if they're putting all their time and effort into their job and their family fitness, taking care of themselves kind of gets put on the back burn because you know it's uncomfortable and it's you're already tired after working, and and so a lot of you know, you would the dad bod title has been thrown out there for a while, which you know I'm not I'm not for. but yeah, so I think those two would be the the ones that get the least attention. Absolutely. No. you've said complacency is killing more men than stress or burnout. What does complacency actually look like? Yeah, I just think just being comfortable. Yeah, I think you know, just being comfortable and and being okay with where we're at. And again, kind of goes back to that, you know, having that dad bot and and trying to make it seem like it's an okay thing. you know we are made and created to do so many great things, and we either get it kind of beat out of us growing up of like, hey, you know, just do this, go get a job, you know, provide enough to have the American dream or whatever that is for you all. And and we just we don't live fully into our our capabilities. You know, we aren't going to explore, we aren't going to enjoy life, we're not you know, challenging our bodies physically to to be able to, you know, protect and serve the best we can. yeah, complacency, I think, just being okay. People complain all the time, you know, that they want more money or they they want better fitness or they want to be healthier, but then they don't do anything about it because it it takes so much and there's so much discomfort in changing that they just stay the same and it just is a slow, gradual decline to to the end. I and I I interviewed someone the other day and they they brought up the point where people will say, I'm too busy. I'm too busy to work out, I'm too busy to better myself, I'm too busy to take some me time. But you know, at the end of the day, it's up to you to decide how busy you're gonna do. We all have the same yeah, we all have the same 24 hours, and if I guarantee those people say they're too busy, if you check their phone, there's probably at least 30 minutes that they've been on that that they could have been exercising or spending time on themselves. it's it's prioritization. We we prioritize what we care about and what we you know are focused on. and so if we we don't prioritize it, we don't pr it's gonna it's gonna decline. If we don't prioritize spending time with your wife or your significant other, your partner, that relationship's not gonna do well. If you don't you know if you don't prioritize time of course taking showers every day or every whatever however often you do it, you're gonna smell. And so you have to prioritize and you have to truly care. And again, the the amount it takes to change is is way too much for a lot of people, and that's why they stay complacent. So they have to get to a point where the pain that they're in is greater than the pain it is to change what they're doing before they actually change, unfortunately, for most men. and that's why you know with Upgraded Man, we're trying to like spur that on to help them kind of do that before it they get to that you know rock bottom level. and a lot of them listening already are trying to improve all the time, so they're already on that path. So but I it was crazy because I heard this one time the story of this guy who his health was not doing well, he was you know sick a lot, he wasn't taking care of himself, and he met this stranger on the street one day, and they were talking, and he said, If I had this pill and you could take this pill and it would change all your problems. You'd be healthy, you'd be fit, you'd feel great. All I would do is take this pill once a day. He said it's here's the here's everyone else that has done it. He showed them the the case studies, he, you know, all that fun stuff, the examples. The guy was like, Oh yeah, okay, great. So he got a he got a thing of the pills, just had to take one a day. That's it. Just take one pill. Yeah, yeah, that's it. For 30 days. The guy met him again. Hey, how's it been going? Oh, you know, I haven't seen much change, you know, I'm not really feeling any much better. He's like, Well, do you take all the pills? He's like, Well, no, I haven't taken them all. You know, I've taken a few, and he he just kept coming to excuses. You know, I forgot, or I didn't have food, or X, Y, and Z. So all he had to do was take one pill a day and he would have said he didn't prioritize saying that pill and he had excuses. and that's 80% of people, you know, could give be given a pill to change their situation and they still wouldn't do it. It was that simple. because of just excuses. So exactly. Now, you're a father. Now, what's something you've had to confront about yourself since becoming a father that you wouldn't have faced, you know, potentially otherwise. Yeah, I think one is the rate as at which I'm trying to achieve goals that I have is going to be slightly slower than I wanted. Right. Because I want to spend more time with my kids. I want to be I want to be present, I want to see their cause they're only this age once. They're they're young and I don't want to miss those moments. And so, you know, sacrificing the speed of growth for time with them has been one for sure. And and having to learn how to harmonize things, like maybe I have to do some work calls while I'm with them and and trying to figure out how to best have that harmony. So sure, no, for sure. Now, when you you're you're doing your podcasts, what type of feedback are you receiving from men? Because you know what? Sometimes we don't talk about this enough, and and I'm I'm really glad that you have a podcast like this. And please share with us some of the feedback you've received from from your listeners. I'm I'm very curious to know about that. Yeah, it's always good to hear someone say, Man, I'm glad you did that episode, or that one really spoke to me, or I really needed to hear that one, or hey, those are great points. I hear those kind of things a lot from people and stuff that people comment on social media. And that's what like keeps me going, right? Because it's not easy to produce a podcast. even weekly, you know, weekly podcasts and going 500 plus episodes. Wow, congratulations. And so when we thank you, yeah. So when you hear like one person, like hey, that really helped me. Or I'm gonna I'm gonna actually use that. Like, that was great. Like that keeps me going. Because that that's all that matters. Like, sure, we get you know tens of thousands of listeners per week, but knowing that it's actually affecting someone makes it all worth it. Like I wouldn't have to have that many followers or like people listen to the show, you know, as long as I was helping one, right? It was enough for me to keep going. And so that's what that's what I love, and just hearing those like man, I'm that really spoke to me. I'm really glad that one, or that was a great guess, you know. I didn't think about that kind of thing. Maybe it was relationship or finances. those seem to be big ones. yeah, so those kind of comments I get. when I I I wouldn't say I get them every day or anything like that, but when I do hear them, it's always a great feeling, knowing that we're doing anything. So certainly, definitely. no, the lies men tell themselves to stay comfortable. No, it's it's it's sad. It's sad. You know, what's the lie most men will like carry her to the grave if no one interrupts it? Yeah. A lot of men so the time one's the big one. I don't have enough time. I don't have enough time is a big one, and you know, the excuse of like I'm just not made for it. It's not like I'm not like the cards aren't there for me, kind of thing. Yeah. and and I don't believe that I think anyone can, you know, succeed. I think they can change, you know, as Knight's Tale, the movie with Thief Ledger would say, a man can change their stars. and I I think if you if you take the action and you work towards it, it's not gonna be easy, of course. But you can you can change your stars, you can change the outcome trajectory of your life. Don't let yourself become a thermometer and let your environment dictate your temperature, but be a thermostat and you choose what your temperatures are gonna be, no matter what environment you're in. And so I think those are the two big ones. You know, I didn't have enough time, or you know, just it's not in the cards for me. Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't meant to be. So yeah, yeah, it's it's it's true. Now, you're the founder of Elevate Media Group. we're gonna be wrapping things up shortly. Why don't you tell us a little bit about your company and also where they can find your podcast? Sure, thank you for that. Yeah, so Elevate Media Group, we just work with small businesses and help them to grow the digital footprint so they can bring in more revenue, more clients through social media and marketing and PR and relationships. So we've been doing that for a while now and you know, been lucky enough to work with Apple, Drop Light, some other big name companies out there, done work with the Pacers, things like that. So it's been a fun. It's been a fun journey. You know, it's taking me all across the country. I've been able to see the Grand Canyon, been able to go to the some different beaches to Vegas, and you know, it's funny because when I started, I prayed. I was like, God, you know, I'm listening to you, I'm I'm following this. Could I travel? Could this be something that allowed me to travel and see more places of the world because I love that? And you know, he he he answered that prayer, and it's been it's been really cool to see. But yeah, so that's Lvate. love telling people story, loving help love helping them get their message out there. Yes. because we we help them grow, they're able to help more people with their products and services, and so the rip will just continue. So elvate dash media group.com for that. And then yeah, Upgraded Man Podcast, wherever you find your podcast, Apple Spotify, we're on there. and would love would love you to go and and follow the show. leave a rating review if you listen and like it. and yeah, just hopefully men listening and go listen to the show and can find something that'll help them continually improve. So well, Chris Anderson, it's it's been a pleasure meeting you today. And yes, I encourage all our viewers and listeners go to upgrade at man.simplecast.com or simply search for the upgraded man wherever you get your podcast. And like Chris said, you know, if if you enjoyed the podcast, give it a like, subscribe, because that goes a long way for us podcasters. And I think you have a really admirable podcast out there, and I really encourage everyone to check it out. Chris Anderson, a pleasure. Would love to have you on again in the future. And thanks for joining the Link Thru Social Podcast today. Absolutely. Thanks for having me, and I'd love to be back. Yeah, for sure. Great. Okay, well, the Link Thru Social Podcast will be back right after this short message. SPONSOR MESSAGE - SMART POST APP SPONSOR MESSAGE Tired of stressing over what to post on social media? Meet Smart Post App, your all-in-one solution to create, schedule, and grow your content effortlessly. 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Well, we have a really good guest for us today, Olga Popova, and she's the founder of Space Ad, a media holding built around a simple idea: money with robots, hands, with two humans and a fleet of AI robots. Her team runs content, systems, and earnings infrastructure for an audience of over 205,000 people across 39 different countries. She's also the author of 27 Minutes to the Future, published in four different languages. Olga, welcome to the Link Thru Social Podcast. Thank you very much for the invitation, and I hope that we will make podcasts useful for your listeners. I'm sure we will. I was reading your bio, and you have a very interesting career. before we get into some of the things that you're currently doing, how about you give us a little brief history about yourself? Yes, originally when I started to make my business, I had a lot of ambitions. It was a lot of years ago, and I started it with humans. during my life, I made different businesses, and always I was jumping from humans to robots in that moment. Artificial intelligence was not so everywhere. Sometimes people are toxic. I was tied and I decided no, only machines. Then it became boring for me, and I returned to people, so it was all life like this. But in this my company, SpaceAd, this story had even other levels or even other heights. because when I have created my business, it was the end of 2022, and I didn't know will it be very successful or not, will it run or not? Just let's start. I started and it was very, very quickly growing, very rapidly. So, in the very first year, we have the turnover more than 22 million dollars from scratch. So, and for me it was a big result, but in that moment I was so much in sales that I totally forgot that business is not just sales, it should have proper infrastructure. Okay, yes, yes. So we faced with a lot of difficulties, turbulence, especially because I am Russian and in our sanctions works all these. Terrible things in the world, it is difficult to manage and to build worldwide business, so a lot of limitations, and in that moment we faced a huge wall, it was a big turbulence, and it was very difficult for me. outside, extrovert it okay, it was difficult to manage, but the more difficult thing was inside me because when I saw that a lot of people, clients, partners, employees, in the moment when everything was very successful, they were here, and in the moment when there is some turbulence, not even big problems, they started to blame, to abuse, to hate. No, there's always you know I cannot just complain because I have a lot of supporters, I have a lot of people who were with me in different moments, and they are still with me. so but in that moment when I saw a lot of betrayals, I saw bride in my employees. Can you imagine my clients paid money to my employees? Employees accepted this money for some hidden information, I don't know what it was, but anyway. So in that moment, I was so shocked, I was so offended that I just fired almost everybody. I left just one. So one human employee. And can you imagine more than 200,000 clients from 39 countries, and just two of us to manage all these things without AI would be impossible. So I am very grateful to God every day that I was born in this world where AI is already existing, and when we can implement it, and so we started to build, build very quickly, not because I wanted, but because just I had no any other choice. And today I am very happy that we have a few thousands of AI agents, AI employees tuned exactly for us, structured exactly for our business, who are really operating our business. Yes, that's fascinating, absolutely fascinating. So you talk about AI agents as earners, not only assistants. Why don't you why don't you elaborate on that a little? because I believe this is one of the biggest mistakes what people do in their approach to AI. They think that AI is just a tool for some simple tasks. And they try the majority of people, not all, but the majority of people, they try to delegate to AI the most simple things. And it is strange because AI is much more capable, much more powerful than we used to imagine. so you need to delegate to it exact results. For example, if you run a business or you if you do some work for money, tell to it, make for me money, don't tell to it, write a post, then I will publish this post in LinkedIn, then advertiser will come and pay me money. So you use him like a small assistant, but he's professor. It is like, for example, you have in front of you professor in mathematics, who has no Nobel Prize and Nobel Awards, and you tell him how much two plus two. Okay, he's able to reply you that it is four, and it is correct, but it is strange to use a professor for some task. That's why I believe that people need to use it more quickly, more oftenly, and more professionally. Right, it's like when sometimes if you go to a traditional interview for a new job and they say, Oh, you have all these qualifications, you're overqualified. I think the AI agents are overqualified. So you're right. Don't don't you don't have to keep it simple with them. You you you you can give them very difficult tasks to do, and and and that obviously has helped you with all these different projects and and and clientele that you have with just one or two humans. That's an absolutely amazing. we have a lot of solopreneurs that listen and watch the Link Thru Social Podcast. What should solopreneurs stop doing if their AI strategy is still just hiring faster? Hire faster robots, not humans. They can hire faster, but not humans. Yeah, I believe first of all, to stop do the simple things, the repetitive things. for example, if you need to write a letter to your client today, if you need to write a letter to another client tomorrow, no need to write it, and no need to tell AI write a letter instead of me. Tell it to build communication system that you will ever communicate instead of me. So, and it will build itself, it will be communicating and it will do your communication much more productive than you think from the beginning. So, to take out from you all the repetitive things, it is one thing. Second thing, to delegate all the boring tasks, for example, to fulfill tax declaration. No, I don't know, maybe for somebody it is a huge pleasure, but for majority of people it is more. So for majority of people it is not pleasant, and all these non-pleasant things you can delegate to AI, and I mean not only boring things, but the things which gives negative, which puts negative word into your life. for example, you cannot imagine I had a very funny case. If you want, I will send it home. There is just two minutes video. Maybe you can use it in your podcast. I have smart avatar Olga. This is a digital version of myself, she looks like me. and she speaks her own truth, let's say. And you cannot imagine once I told her, Olga, I am very tired from haters. Can you please manage them? And she created the video for haters, which was very very successful, very successful, and she was full of laugh, laughing on them. That they hate algorithm, they hate machine, they spent their nervous system to hate machine. so but she cannot have a spoiled mood, she cannot have negative actions. Right, that's awesome. So that's why you can delegate to AI tax declarations, communication with haters, fixing problems with toxic clients, all these things should be delegated. Unbelievable, yeah. No, you should you definitely should send me that video. See, and I'll I'll I'll share it with our videos or listeners and and viewers. so you've written a book 27 minutes to the future. in the book pieces become a shift product. listen, when I got this idea that AI is not a tool, AI is your extension, and in the phrase your extension, both words are important. Your because when you give to it some tasks, when you delegate to it something, you give part of you, part of your conscious, part of your vision, part of your understanding of this life. So this is yours. And secondly, because it is much more productive than you, much more powerful, it is your extension. and it is very strange not to use extensions when they can give you results. so AI, not a tool, it is you, but bigger you, greater you. So, in that moment, when I understood this idea, when I checked this idea in reality in my own business, I wanted to share it with the world, but I didn't want to write some boring article about it or just some post in Instagram. I wanted to give the shape interesting to this idea. That's why I wrote this book, Technological Thriller. It is fiction and it is already translated on a few languages. And I will tell you today about one thing which I made last week, and I was amazed by the result. when I shared this book, it is being sold on Amazon. A lot of people can buy and read it. And when I shared it, one of my friends, he is not just a friend, he is a very important person, and he is a big businessman and he has no time. I know that usually he has no a lot of free time, yeah. So, and when he told me, Olga, I have started to read your book, and it is really interesting, but lack of time, maybe I don't read it very quickly. It would be better if it would be a movie about your book based on your yes, yes. And first of all, I thought ah it would be great. And the second idea was can I can I delegate creation of this movie? You cannot imagine immediately. I gave this task, and no, okay. I have my program to AI agents, they they know a lot about me, of course, they know about my book and all these things, and you cannot imagine AI created a full movie, not 20 seconds, not 20 minutes. It read read the book, it programmed AI film director, it created AI screenwriter basing on the lot of experience of humanity of Hollywood and so on. Yes, so it created then it created five episodes. Each episode is 40 42 minutes less, so and full of characters, full of ideas, and I was shocked watching it. Okay, it asked me some questions, I was involved in the process. It is not like I gave a small prompt, but creating no okay. I was in the process, but I was enjoying this process first of all, because this magic happened in front of me. Yes, secondly, because you cannot imagine how deeply it understands me. Because when you write something, no, for example, if you write or if you read some book, you have some image of heroes, yes, of characters who are there how this is blunt or not, and so you have yes, and these things I think I did not describe in details, but because it knows me very deeply, it created on my screen exactly the things which I had in my vision, yes. So I felt like I don't know, Elon Musk already put chips in my brains or not, but this is and you see your MacBook the things which you saw just in your imagination. So in the end of this week, now the book is being translated on different languages as well. Yeah, so in the end of this book, it will be in the end of this week. Sorry, the movie will be available, and I'll share the link. I cannot wait to see this now. That that is absolutely incredible. How exciting of times we're in right now. Oh god, like it the literally the sky is the limit because AI is is moving so fast. We talk about this every week on the show. The the speed of which this has just developed over the last few years is is is mind-boggling. It's it's it's and it's so fascinating. I've I've always been someone very interested in the in the latest trends, the latest inventions, and that, but nothing can compare to what we're experiencing right now. It's absolutely incredible. And yes, I I can't wait to watch the the the actual video movie. It's it's prepared like a Netflix special for you because you know, four episodes, 45 minutes, that's usually how long they are. And just unbelievable. A few years ago, I was listening to some program, some predictions or something, and they told that very soon we will have the situation when you are driving home after your work, after a very busy day, and you would like to have some entertainment, some relaxation. You can just you will be able to tell to your AI assistant or somebody create for me, please, ta-ta-ta this and this book. And I thought, oh wow, because one of my favorite books is Atlas Shragd. Atlas Schrade is a very interesting entrepreneurial book, and when I read it, I loved it a lot. but when I saw the movie about it, it's terrible. No, just the quality is I could never imagine that it can so, but I thought, okay, if I can drive, tell make for me please at least movie, and I want somebody like Angelina Joly as a main character there. Do it, please. And can you imagine you came home? So, but a few years ago, we I thought about it as a far, far future, and today this is the reality which happened directly in my hands. Sure, and you you know it's just outstanding. And I believe from here we have the next the biggest question which everybody should ask himself today what is my vision? Yeah, what you want on this life? Because imagine next to you there is a very powerful, very capable assistant which can do anything for you, right? And if it can do anything, the next question is what to do. So you should give to it some, and to give to it some big task, you need to have this big task. You have you need to have this very detailed image in your head. I believe this is the challenge for every thinking person today. Yeah, big tasks, big ideas. You know, it's amazing. Now, I'd like to ask you where do most founders get AI wrong when they try to scale content, and and of course, you know, it's always important revenue. No, I believe that first of all, they underestimate. They think it could give it should make some simple task, make a picture for me, write a post, order a pizza or something new. It can, but it is it is very very simple. things it is one thing. Second, the majority of people they are still scared, and they don't use it, it is a huge mistake. And the third, I believe that they start to do the instructions which AI gives to them. for example, my best approach is if you want to be very successful and if you want to use AI on maximum, create please describe now your position A, your point A, where you are now, who are you, what you have, what you do not have, all things describe. Then describe point B where you would like to be, your ideal life, and ask AI to make the roadmap, the most quick, the most productive roadmap way to from A to B. And then here a lot of people do mistake. Stop. Don't try to go according to this path. Tell AI to go because if you tell him I am here, I want to be there, and it gives you manual and you go, it means you are courier and it is a boss, so you can return boss position to yourself and tell him hello. Now you are very good road map creator, and now go. So it will okay, not all the path on the path will be some pieces where you are needed, some steps you will do, yeah. But the majority of steps it will do, and it will be more pleasant way. Now we have to wrap things up shortly, but before we we we start to do that, I I I want to have you share with the listeners and viewers what does money with robot hands mean in practice, not just slogan as per se. Oh, very practical things. we have arranged in our business and we share this technology for free with everybody. I also love practical things, I don't like this just theoretic thinking. So, first of all, I decided that I can make money by robot hands. Let's verify this is possible or not. And I chose the industry, the sphere where Olga understands nothing. Astrology. Okay, I can read, I can listen to astrology forecasts, but I am not astrologist by myself. And in that moment, when I decided, okay, in this sphere I don't have anything, it is good because if I have some knowledge and we built it with AI together, it means together. But if Olga is totally cut off the picture because she doesn't have knowledge, she doesn't have skills, she doesn't have experience in this industry, and if finally the business will be successful, it means just AI built it. So, and I told him, make me please a profitable business in astrology. So, what it was doing amazing. It created the sub-agent, a professional astrologist, which makes individual forecasts, individual predictions for people for $99. So then it created the website and put all the description that you can order this service on this website, la la la. Then it connected the payment system to this website. then it created YouTube channel, it created a content generated machine for this YouTube channel. Every day, professional astrologists make the forecasts for all the signs, Sagittarius scored all pieces, so make publishes it totally automatically, and attracting traffic, people listening it on YouTube, they would like to have individual ones, they go to the website and order. In the very first day, I had two clients, 99 each, yeah, yeah. from from his scheme. so and when it was joined all together, it was wow, and it asked me only two things. First, Olga, give please your bank account where you want to, and second, please register in YouTube because you need to have the password and log in. Of course. That's all all other things was built totally, were built totally without me. So when I saw it, oh wow, I also repeating it in two other industries in fitness and cuisine. My colleagues made it in numerology, so it is already working in different spheres, and everybody is the same money totally by robot hands. And the second thing, this is second business model, how you can do money by robot hands, it is we have mobile app treasury, it's free mobile app, everybody can download it. And in treasury, humans should do only two things. They need to choose one of the companies. There are a lot of companies who suggest very good products in totally different kinds of products from video games up to bank crypto cards. So you choose, for example, I like this product, this company. Then you choose one social media where you would like to share this product. YouTube, X platform, TikTok, Instagram. For example, you choose video game and you choose TikTok. You just push orc and Treasury analyzes the trends in this industry, treasury creates for you viral content, individual your viral content, which you can take and post, no, for example, in your TikTok. After this, people in TikTok, your followers, they go and play this game. They are grateful to you because you gave them good game, and game studio pays you referral income because you brought these people. So what all that you need to come to Treasury, download it for free, push this company, this social, and that's all. money by Robot Fans, totally. So these are things we have already implemented, and people globally are using it. So we do have to wrap things up, Olga. I've really appreciate the time. You you're a fascinating guest. how can our viewers and listeners find you? what URLs would you like to drive them to so they can see what you've been talking about? not only your book, but your services, your treasury. why don't you share that with us? I believe that let's share the link on the treasury and link on my YouTube channel, or maybe a better YouTube channel, because on YouTube channel there are videos about everything, there are videos about book them the movie will be published on YouTube channel for free for everybody. So people can subscribe, people can ask me any questions. I cannot promise that I will reply by myself, but Olga Smart Avatar Olga will reply for sure because she's communicating there and no, and I'm also there, I am very open. So people can subscribe, people can listen about today. We have touched different different pieces of my business, and on YouTube they can find different videos about each piece and use it for themselves. We'll we'll share all the links in the description on both YouTube or if you're listening wherever you take a podcast such as Spotify or Apple, and we'll include all those links. Well, Olga Popova, thank you so much for joining us today. I'd like to, you know, right now, right as we speak, invite you on the show again, maybe later this year. I'd love to have you on. Absolutely fascinating, and the things that you're doing are truly amazing. And we really appreciate your time today. Thank you so much. Thank you very much, and I'll go I will be glad to see you again. I believe after some points, what we will have maybe later in this year, because first of all, the movie will be published in experience. We'll see how it will be. And second thing, that in October in Treasury, we will have the new super powerful robot whose name is Atlas. And Atlas is the powerful robot which will be able to create for you a profitable business by just one prompt. You write to it, create for me profitable business, and that's all. And it will create. So the launch of this robot is in October, I believe. Later on, maybe November, maybe December, we can discuss how it's working. That would be wonderful. Well, Olga Popova, thank you so much. And the Link Thru Social podcasts will be back after this short break. SPONSOR MESSAGE - TICKETPORTX SPONSOR MESSAGE Introducing TicketportX multi-day events, hosting a festival, seminar, conference, tournament, or event series. 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